Hey guys - quick idea.

I hear the thing about "Artillery-based Minnmitar ships can't support artillery!" all the time, and something popped into my mind as a possible way to fix it.

Rework the artillery-based ships so that one of their skill bonuses is % less powergrid for artillery. This way, the high powergrid requirement still prohibits their use on non-bonused ships, but the ships that need them can start fitting them.

I got this idea because of my heavy use of Amarr ships. People often whine about Amarr boats having to waste a skill bonus on just having the laser weapons not consume all the capacitor every salvo. I'm fine with it, and I think the spirit of that idea as described above could work to alleviate some problems with Minnmitar artillery ships.

Fixing arty fitting would resolve a lot of issues with minmatar. No ship stats have to be modified, no extra grid/cpu to be abused by ac fits. It would only affect arty fits, as intended.

I still find it amusing that a broadsword does the muninns fleet role better. Same bonuses, same # of turrets, just falloff instead of optimal, and lose tracking. But you can get the same alpha and double the tank.

That being said, an extra mid is pretty damn important for the muninn to be viable. To keep it flexible , moving utility high to mid might be best. Though it would just be a repackaged SFI at that point i suppose. Can we get a free mid plz? I know.. no chance in hell.

Because then it wouldn't hit anything in optimal range with 720mm. With that bonus it has laser tracking and better range than lasers. Better tracking even, if you're one of the crazies that remembers tracking ammo is a thing.

Mostly medium are pretty bad and the muninn is the only sniping cruiser that uses them. 720mm use as much PG as heavy beams on ships that don't have the base grid to do that.

MWD is just a long-range webifier for artillery. Adjust your velocity such that you reduce opponent's angular movement to as low as possible, then fire. You can literally eyeball it, I scored over 8k damage on a rat frigate at 20km distance with 1400mm artillery in a Maelstrom during a practice test once. I'm not sure how hard it'll be in PVP but there's a fair few times I was in a non-artillery ship yet had an excellent chance to fire anyway based on my velocity nearly matching my target's velocity.

Why is the ishtar ehp so silly high?

I was thinking, what if we did to the muninn, what CCP did to the sleipnir. Drop a turret but give it some beefy bonuses to keep overall damage the same, and still keep the utility high?

Give it a 10% bonus to damage per level and 5% rof. Or 7.5% RoF and 5% damage to compensate the loss of turret. Or.. 10% dmg and 7.5% RoF .